Like to change to a C4GP

[Nitekid]

Hi everyone,

Happy new year to all. I m new here. Not yet an owner of c4gp but I test drove the car recently. I like the c4gp for it's design ( looks) , practicality, space n of course the gadgets n electronics that comes with it. But I worry n concern the followings:


1) GearBox (Especially in auto mode) jerk or lags

For the Gearbox I understand the EGS is actually a manual box with auto clutch n in auto mode it just helps to shift gear for u ...so I m not so taken back like most new user who are use to cvt or auto box. In fact I quite like the manual mode as I driven manual cars (not an issue for me to shift manually via the paddles). I did experience the auto mode issue when I drive it like a normal auto...but once I knew I need to ease off, it was not so bad. My concern is the auto mode at low speed. as the car will probably b driven by my wife who is an auto driver. My question is: how bad is the lag..is it only at 1st to 2nd gear or 2nd to 3rd only ? Or higher up gears it also will have issue?
Or is it best to use manual mode at the lower gears then switch to auto mode later b a better way to overcome the issue?


2) suspension.
During test drive, se manage to let me try out some bends and winding roads, so I tot he wanted to show me how good the suspension is. So I push it a little at the bend ( not fast) just try turning with out braking too hard but at low speed of course.

To my surprise it rolls much more and was not as firm as I tot it might be ...nothing too serious but is just a bit soft n makes those sitting at the back a little dizzy ...my questions is : any aftermarket suspension for this car?
As we like to take road trips so bends n winding roads manner concerns me a lot..not for performance sake but is for safety n comfort.


Sorry for the long post. Thanks in advance for the replies. Hope bros n sistas here can share some light on the above...I m very sure I be going for the c4gp but These issue really concern me now...as my other options is the Peugeot 5008 but I like c4gp looks n features better although the 5008 feel more firm but also not as good as well in the bends too but is a little better. That's why I still looking at the c4gp still :)

Thanks again. Sorry for the long post.

[Livelife]

Hi nitekid,

A warm welcome to the community and taking your time to post here :)

I went through the same thoughts on the egs just like you. I had also compared the pug 5008.

I believe that the bros and sistas here will help you with yr questions.

Have a great time here :)

[voyager]

HALLO Nitekid :-)

a very warm welcome to you :-) thank you for introducing yourself, and i'm sure we all wish you safe and happy driving in 2012 and beyond :-)

i have managed to find the following threads in answer to your questions. i would infer that you've been doing some browsing on your own already, so you know that there are many threads here on tips about how to drive smoothly.

nevertheless, these threads seem relevant:

http://www.citroenchat.com/showthread.php?t=26548

http://www.citroenchat.com/showthread.php?t=27068

http://www.citroenchat.com/showthread.php?t=27328&page=6

and this thread seems relevant about your query about the suspension. essentially, the suspension might respond differently if there are more people in the car (not that it dynamically adapts - it can't; i'm just saying it might be calibrated for heavier loads).

http://www.citroenchat.com/showthread.php?t=27271

[Nitekid]

Thks all for the warm welcome n replies.
Let see how things goes...if all goes well, I may be a new owner :)

Maybe the suspension I can do some more homework. Wonder if some of the common coil over brands has an application for the c4gp if eventually we still find the suspension too soft...else I think the car is superb!






HALLO Nitekid :-)

a very warm welcome to you :-) thank you for introducing yourself, and i'm sure we all wish you safe and happy driving in 2012 and beyond :-)

i have managed to find the following threads in answer to your questions. i would infer that you've been doing some browsing on your own already, so you know that there are many threads here on tips about how to drive smoothly.

nevertheless, these threads seem relevant:

http://www.citroenchat.com/showthread.php?t=26548

http://www.citroenchat.com/showthread.php?t=27068

http://www.citroenchat.com/showthread.php?t=27328&page=6

and this thread seems relevant about your query about the suspension. essentially, the suspension might respond differently if there are more people in the car (not that it dynamically adapts - it can't; i'm just saying it might be calibrated for heavier loads).

http://www.citroenchat.com/showthread.php?t=27271

[Ram Ram]

voyager, you are always there, especially for the newbies! Kudos to you!

[voyager]

thank you, Ram Ram.

thank you for taking the time to encourage both the oldbies and the newbies :-)

[snowman-picasso]

hi nitekid

a warm welcome to this community....

this is my observation on my ride, just to share..

For gear 1 to gear 2 change, i believe Citroen had upgrade the gearbox software to minimise the jerkiness, and i notice that the gear change (gear 1 to gear 2) took place at 2000 rpm, that actually reduce the dragging on gear 1 and thus reduce the jerkiness, and on slowing down, the gear change (gear 2 to gear 1) took place at a very low rpm, so even at below 2000 rpm, it can still remain at gear 2, which is much more smoother as compare to gear 1.

I have to agree with you that the suspension is rather soft, but so far, it's not a major issue to me...

i believe some of our bros here do drive in to our neighbouring country..so far, i would believe their drive are pleasant, and even at 'some' speed, the ride are still pretty stable...

At work, i park my GC4P beside a pug 5008 almost everyday...and everytime when i peep into the 5008's interior, i'm glad i have chosen GC4P...haha !!

btw, COE drop liao...mai tu liao....haha !!!

ops !!..kudo to our chef...always there for the newbies...

[Nitekid]

Thanks for the tips on the gear change. Will certainly try it out eventually when i get my ride.

Yes, i do agree with u the suspension not too big of an issue as it just a bit soft but i do notice at higher speed its seems to firm up. But then it was just a test drive so i didnt get to drive it long enuf to confirm.

As for p5008. Well interior wise i feel its dont give the same feeling as the c4gp. Some strange reason.. I just find it more relaxing sitting in the citreon. Although 5008 suppose togive the driver a more sporty feel but personally i dont feel it is so. Its not the same feel as sitting in an s-max or a golf gti cockpit which i find it indeed sporty feel for the driver.

And yes coe is down.. Now i m just waiting for the good news from se thats all



hi nitekid

a warm welcome to this community....

this is my observation on my ride, just to share..

For gear 1 to gear 2 change, i believe Citroen had upgrade the gearbox software to minimise the jerkiness, and i notice that the gear change (gear 1 to gear 2) took place at 2000 rpm, that actually reduce the dragging on gear 1 and thus reduce the jerkiness, and on slowing down, the gear change (gear 2 to gear 1) took place at a very low rpm, so even at below 2000 rpm, it can still remain at gear 2, which is much more smoother as compare to gear 1.

I have to agree with you that the suspension is rather soft, but so far, it's not a major issue to me...

i believe some of our bros here do drive in to our neighbouring country..so far, i would believe their drive are pleasant, and even at 'some' speed, the ride are still pretty stable...

At work, i park my GC4P beside a pug 5008 almost everyday...and everytime when i peep into the 5008's interior, i'm glad i have chosen GC4P...haha !!

btw, COE drop liao...mai tu liao....haha !!!

ops !!..kudo to our chef...always there for the newbies...

[popofinfin]

Hi Nitekid, welcome! Thanks for your self intro and highlight your concerns.
I believe these issues are very obvious to pple who are new to the GP, but over a bit of time, accustomisation sets in, you will begin to adapt to the gearbox and the gear change would be soon. As for the suspension, it is soft and meant to be, this is to give long distance drives a very comfortable ride.
For me, I really enjoyed the drive up north coz it's very stable and comfortable, likewise for the passengers too :) I can only say once I get used to GP's cabin feel, it's makes the rest of the ride feel 'claustrophobic'. :D

[Nitekid]

Hi Nitekid, welcome! Thanks for your self intro and highlight your concerns.
I believe these issues are very obvious to pple who are new to the GP, but over a bit of time, accustomisation sets in, you will begin to adapt to the gearbox and the gear change would be soon. As for the suspension, it is soft and meant to be, this is to give long distance drives a very comfortable ride.
For me, I really enjoyed the drive up north coz it's very stable and comfortable, likewise for the passengers too :) I can only say once I get used to GP's cabin feel, it's makes the rest of the ride feel 'claustrophobic'. :D


I think are right about 'claustrophobic' effect....after viewing n being inside a c4gp before, the rest of the car (mpv) of similar size just few "small" n lack of cubbie hole or gadgets .. Indeed the GP is an interesting choice for an mpv for the whole family! Thanks to all for all the feedback n replies.

Happy CNY to all who is celebrating. One more week to go ....

[nextreal]

Hi everyone,

Happy new year to all. I m new here. Not yet an owner of c4gp but I test drove the car recently. I like the c4gp for it's design ( looks) , practicality, space n of course the gadgets n electronics that comes with it. But I worry n concern the followings:


1) GearBox (Especially in auto mode) jerk or lags
2) suspension.


Hi, my 2 cents.

Let me start by writing this - like everything else, there's almost no way you can get all that you want. You think you have potential issues with the gearbox and suspension. The C4GP has never brand itself as a sporty MPV, and I reckon the 5008 may not satisfy your criteriae too, especially for the suspension. I reckon the Touran may fit the bill better in these departments.

However, you have indicate that you like the other aspects of the GP - design, practicality, space and gadgets.

Now each manufacturer will market their product according to their strengths and selling points - the Touran - sportiness, the 5008 - hmmm, nothing outstanding, but the GP - all the above areas that you like.

So back to my point - there's no way you can get all that you want. For this purchase, would you like to get the GP that fulfills your likes, or the 5008 that doesn't?

I think you may like to instead decide between the Touran and the GP.

[bigdaddy]

Hi NiteKid,

Glad u asked, and pls allow me to share too. I am an owner of a 20 mth old C4GP.

Someone asked me recently if I had a choice to buy a new car, what would it be. It was a real and practical question (we weren't talking about dream cars like Bugatti Veyrons, Posches, etc..). I thought hard about it and decided that there weren't that many choices afterall. I need an MPV as I have a big family. So the choices were more or less those that you listed ie. C4GP, Touran, P5008 and others like the Sharan, Espace, Estima, Alphard, Odessey, Grandis, Wish, Stream, Orlando, etc...

Personally, I've owned large MPVs before Estima, Picnic and Grandis. While I like the space, I hated the heavy FC, high roadtax and van-like drive. When I found out about the 1.6THP, I loved it because it felt like a 2.0 or 2.4 but doesn't cost an arm & leg. COE is also Cat A.

So, it's down to the 3 choices again. For the fun factor, the C4GP wins hands down (and I'm not being biased). The electric-operated panoramic moonroof, wide copter style windscreen, and the beautiful layout of the interior were enough for me to make my choice. Like many have said, the Touran is so taxi-like. The design wouldn't have looked progressive even if it was launched in 1990! The only plus factor is its 1.4l TSI (slightly lower rd tax) and the so-called DSG gearbox (which is presumably good, I think). The P5008 is forgetable. If you've stepped into the cabin before, the steering wheel and console layout are so ordinary (like a Jap car). The exterior is run-of-the-mill. I must admit that when I first saw a white one on the road, it made me turn my head to take a 2nd look. Since then, it's faded into the wallpaper like every other Wish and Stream. Or is it that there are practically none on the roads? Whatever the reason is, it's (like I said) quite forgetable. The plus side about the P5008 could be the 6-speed gearbox (assuming u dun quite enjoy the 6EGS yet).

After almost 2 years of driving my C4GP, I honestly still find it a joy. There are many "hidden" features to be discovered as we get to know the ride better. Just read some of the threads on this forum and you'll know. We are constantly finding little thoughtful bits and pieces in this car. I don't remember this feeling when I had my Picnic, Estima (ok, the electric sliding doors were quite "fun" for a while) or Grandis. Up till now (just yesterday in fact), every time I drive someone in my car for the first time, they will sing lyrical about it (very comfortable, love the roof, feels solid, very smooth, very quiet, etc...). So, you can see by now that I'm quite a happy customer.

Lastly (sorry for the long reply), perhpas a clincher for you is the after sales service. So far, I am very very pleased with the level of service given by CnC. This was one of my biggest consideration before I bought this ride. If maintaining conti cars were going to more "attention-seeking" (as their reputation suggests...), then the Agent better be good. So far, I must say that I've only had very good experience with their staff and they have been very reasonable when dealing with me. You can say I'm quite a "ngeow" fella who resents being a easy pushover, so it's not easy for me to say this about any service provider. To be fair, I do not have any prior experience about VW or AutoFrance - so, they may be just as good or even better. Best if you check with those who've worked with them.

Happy Car Shopping!! :)