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eddy28 27-04-2008 08:25 PM

C4 Picasso vs Renault Grand Scenic
 
Hi all,

I have been looking at both the C4 Picasso and the Renault Grand Scenic. Any comments on these two cars. I need some advise and comments on the Picasso. Generally, the trimmings of the Picasso is better but the Renault seem to have a better drive. Any comments?

thanks!

Furry 27-04-2008 08:58 PM

Re: C4 Picasso vs Renault Grand Scenic
 
considered ford s-max?

voyager 28-04-2008 12:50 AM

Re: C4 Picasso vs Renault Grand Scenic
 
hello eddy28 :-)

welcome to our community :-)

as you have probably already done your research into the two cars, you'll know that the Grand C4 Picasso is the newer of the two, and i would say (although admittedly not having driven the Grand Scenic) that it's more torsionally rigid, and has a more flexible interior. in addition, it is probable (although this is of course not possible to verify for sure) that it's likely to be the less electronically problematic of the two.

without consulting the respective brochures, i guess the Renault's perception of "a better drive" can probably be attributed to its better power-to-weight ratio (i'm just guessing here), but - as Furry suggests - if a good drive is important to you, you might like to consider the S-Max :-)

Adam 28-04-2008 03:28 PM

Re: C4 Picasso vs Renault Grand Scenic
 
My view is going to be short..C4 Grand Picasso is nicer looks wise..Hmm sits also are great..Very good design in terms of aerodynamic..And hip and not quiet like what most MPV does..

And if you choose C4 Grand Picasso kindly take e EGS6 which is better in terms of gearing and fc and pick up..As the 4 speed is an old gearbox which nearing time for expiry as its only 4 speeder gearbox..

eddy28 28-04-2008 03:43 PM

Re: C4 Picasso vs Renault Grand Scenic
 
Hi all,

Thank you for your feedback. I am still undecided and will probably take some time to decide. I think business not too good for cars. Showroom not crowded at all except Toyota because of the Altis. I think I will take my time and see how the COE goes.


stiook 04-05-2008 03:29 PM

Re: C4 Picasso vs Renault Grand Scenic
 
Hi Guys,

I am currently driving a Jap sedan and looking to upgrade to a MPV due to family need. Was scouting around and looking at the usual Toyotas and Hondas. Never cross my mind to look at a continental but the C4GP definitely attracted me with the unique look.

However for the price, it seems like I am better off with an Odyssey. FC and maintenance are real important consideration given the escalating fuel prices (I travel almost 50km per day). Really torn between looks and practicality...


Model Price Engine Capacity Power Torque Weight Wheel base Length Width Height
Toyota Wish 73388 1794 130 170 1310 2750 4560 1695 1590
Honda Stream 80000 1799 140 174 1370 2740 4570 1695 1545
Mazda 5 83788 1999 145 182 1471 2750 4565 1755 1615
Toyota Picnic 85488 1998 147 192 1490 2825 4690 1829 1700
Opel Zafira 85988 1796 140 175 1455 2703 4467 2026 1645
Mitsubishi Grandis 85988 2378 165 217 1690 2830 4775 1935 1685
Renault Grand Scenic 88000 1998 136 191 1530 2736 4498 2068 1636
Honda Odyssey 96000 2354 160 218 1626 2830 4765 1800 1550
Citroen C4 Grand Picasso 97988 1997 143 200 1560 2728 4585 1829 1700
Ford S-Max 118998 2261 161 208 1658


Any new-converts could share with me your experience?

mascara 04-05-2008 03:42 PM

Re: C4 Picasso vs Renault Grand Scenic
 
Hi,

Given your requirements, i think you better stick with the japs unless
you are looking for a difference in driving sensation and cost is not a major consideration.

I have a c4gp and it is a totally different experience from my previous toyota estima which i drove many years ago.

If prudence is the rule ,stick with japs and you will be happier at the end of the day., anyway there are many japs mpv out there and honda is a good choice.

same dilemma i had before i bought my c4gp , but i work on gut feel.

cheers.

voyager 04-05-2008 04:06 PM

Re: C4 Picasso vs Renault Grand Scenic
 
hi stiook :-)

a warm welcome to you :-)

you would have taken a long time to compile that useful table :-) my uncle (who is in his eighties) still compiles similar tables when he buys cars. as for me, i used to compile such tables for the first couple of cars i bought, but have long since abandoned logic to the irrational rules of the heart :-P (i quickly realised that the cars i ended up buying never really rated very highly on the tables i used to draw up :-P )

the table is very useful, both as a guide to the cars themselves, as well as an indicator of what you yourself value :-)

given your criteria - and thank you for sharing your criteria with us, it helps a great deal - i would concur with mascara that (much as i'm sure many / all of us would love to welcome you as a member of the CitroŽn-owning fraternity) a Japanese MPV might suit your needs better.

the Odyssey is a great car, and it still looks fresh and sleek despite being well into its facelift. my cousin bought one, and her family knows a thing or two about cars as one of the in-laws is a local motoring journalist. having said that, i don't have any personal experience with the Odyssey at all, but for Hondas as a whole, i think it's highly unlikely the ownership experience would be unpleasant.

best wishes with your decision - take your time (it's a wide field out there with your budget) - and please feel welcome to keep returning to this forum... you may just end up being persuaded to buy French :-)

Furry 04-05-2008 10:40 PM

Re: C4 Picasso vs Renault Grand Scenic
 
get a CNG stream RSZ

tm 04-05-2008 10:55 PM

Re: C4 Picasso vs Renault Grand Scenic
 
Hi stiook,

Friend who drive the Ody are achieving around 9-10 km/l. Not sure if this is the norm. Believe the Wish or Stream would achieve better FC if that's your priority. Of course, latter two are in a different category altogether compared to the Ody or C4GP.

Voyager nicely sums it up. Take your time to test, touch and feel. One old related thread on this issue as well: http://www.citroenchat.com/forum/ind...f&topic=304.15. ;)


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